This was when we were in New Zealand doing Dear Suburbia, and that trip was crazy. The place we were staying at was this old…almost like someone’s little camp. So it was the eight of us crammed in this space, and the last night, we got a bunch of wine and beer and we got home and got hammered.

The one of Craig was in his bedroom and he’d just bought that painting the day before when we went antiquing in this weird little town. I like that there’s a light behind him, so it has a glow behind his head, and then the red and the blue bed sheets.

I had been shooting photos the whole time — I like to take photos of people when they’re not looking because I hate asking someone to take their photo. I’m too scared. The older I get, I seem to be getting more and more shy.

I seem to have a bit of a problem with portrait stuff, asking people, and then I don’t know — I just feel awkward when I’m taking them. I’ve been trying to do a bunch more lately because it’s something I really want to get better at. I’m just learning everything, how to get people to act naturally or whatever.

We were just at the house pretty hammered and I think I had had a bottle of red wine and gotten wasted super quick before I knew it, so I got to the cottage and got some portraits that I’d wanted to shoot the whole time we had been staying in this weird little place, and I just hadn’t got around to doing it. But I was hammered, so I was like, “Fuck it,” and I started grabbing everyone.

The house was all really dull and mundane and all the colors were really muted, so it was cool. And we got some other shots: the whole group sitting together in the hallway, where it looks like a classroom or something, and then I got a portrait of Dane I was really happy with.

I started shooting film in the last two or three years. I always have that feeling of not wanting to waste it, even though it’s just eight bucks a roll or something. Like if I burn through film, I feel like I’m wasting because it’s a physical thing. With digital you can just kind of hammer away and it’s nothing. With film, it’s a physical thing that you’re wasting, so I try and take as little as possible, which sometimes sucks because I’m stumbling fucked up and don’t take a lot of shots.